In a time like this, how can you vote for a leader who is clueless about economics?

You mean in a time like this when the democrats caused the collapse of the banking system after bush tried to create a new agency to fix it in 2003 and mccain tried to pass legislation to fix it in 2006?

In a time like this, how can you vote for a leader who is clueless about economics?

Are you saying it's not a good economic plan to add 1 trillion to the budget?

VikingLord, you know nothing about economics. If you did, you would be a libertarian instead of a socialist.

FrenchDoSmell said:

You mean in a time like this when the democrats caused the collapse of the banking system

LOL, the democrats didnt cause the collapse of the banking system, how did you come to this conclusion?

LOL, the democrats didnt cause the collapse of the banking system, how did you come to this conclusion?

You mean pushing banks to give bad loans to crack heads didn't cause it?

Retard, are you familiar with how sub-prime mortgages caused this financial crisis and what is the role of Fannie Mae and other GSEs in it? Or you can just keep that "deregulation" bullshit? Total bullshit: regulations unfortunately increased under Bush. Heard of Sarbanes-Oaxly act? I dount; think so: you are a typical Euro retard who can only recite talking points without any idea what he is talking about. Fuck you

idahoboy wrote:

VikingLord, you know nothing about economics. If you did, you would be a libertarian instead of a socialist.

- Ron Paul is no socialist.....

MadRusski wrote:


Heard of Sarbanes-Oaxly act? I dount; think so:

You mean the new law that was made as a response to the corporate and accounting scandals on walls street? That was because of fraud, just like the subprime loans.

Vikinglord, I figured you were a European Obonga supporter. Ron Paul is a little kooky but I would vote for him over Obonga or McAmnesty If you are a Ron Paul supporter, then I can respect this.

NObama thinks that socialism is the solution to our problems. That's far more dnagerous than McCain admitting he doesn't know much about the subject. At least McCain knows what he doesn't know and will seek out decent advice. Nobama will just fuck things up and crow about what a great job he's doing while the economy goes further down the shitter.

Demoncats played a big part in the financial crisis when they made banks loan money (under threat of lawsuits) to loser minorities that had no capability to repay the loans. Republicans tried to stop it but decided to go along so as not to appear racist. Republicans are so scared to appear racist that they will go along with just about anything.

idahoboy wrote:

Vikinglord, I figured you were a European Obonga supporter. Ron Paul is a little kooky but I would vote for him over Obonga or McAmnesty If you are a Ron Paul supporter, then I can respect this.

- I would vote for Ron Paul any day, he should have run as an independent if you ask me.

\You mean the new law that was made as a response to the corporate and accounting scandals on walls street?

Are you an idiot?

That was because of fraud, just like the subprime loans.

Yes, you are. And Subprime loans were pushed by Democrats. Abundant video proof has been provided

On economics, I think McCain is a useless mess. Obama is a destructive nightmare.

Pick your poison.

TheVikingLord wrote:

LOL look at your supporters Rock. Kinda like when you see Ahmajinidad, Castro, and Chavez rooting for Obama to win, it makes you wonder...

"You mean pushing banks to give bad loans to crack heads didn't cause it?"

No, it contributed to the problem, but didn't cause it. It wasn't Democrats who sold off those sub prime mortgages, nor was it Democrats who "chopped" up those mortgages into little pieces and created "securities" to be used as "collateral" in subsequent, speculative trading throughout the financial world. The brokerages houses, banks, hedge funds, etc., who all bought into this scheme (or manipulated it to their own financial advantage) are no better, or wiser than those who thought they could borrow their way into home ownership.

Memo from the Department of Short Memories: Until the 2006 Congressional elections, all three branches of government were under Republican control, lock, stock and barrel.

Mem from the Department of Irony: To hear Republicans whining that those bad Democrats wouldn't go along with the Republican idea to increase government's regulatory control over the financial markets is just priceless. And you wonder what happened to the GOP?

Memo from the Department of Socialism: The decision of this administration to purchase banking stock, on the heels of the Patriot Act and the expansion fo Medicare may constitute the greatest leap forward into Socialism in our nations's history. Thanks, Republicans!

I would K you Canuk, but im out of K for the moment.....

No, it contributed to the problem, but didn't cause it. It wasn't Democrats who sold off those sub prime mortgages, nor was it Democrats who "chopped" up those mortgages into little pieces and created "securities" to be used as "collateral" in subsequent, speculative trading throughout the financial world. The brokerages houses, banks, hedge funds, etc., who all bought into this scheme (or manipulated it to their own financial advantage) are no better, or wiser than those who thought they could borrow their way into home ownership.

You know what Canuk? blah blah blah blah blah
Who kept saying that a disaster was coming? Who kept saying there was NO CRISIS?! Who pushed to fix it?

Anybody who supports liberty and free markets should support Dr. Ron Paul. Anybody who thinks the economy is the most important issue should support Dr. Ron Paul.

And anybody who wouldn't vote for him because they like being the global policeman is in for a rude awakening in the next 20 years as our mandated entitlement spending consumes the entire federal budget. do you think the old ass baby boomers are going to vote to diminish their social security and medicare benefits? hell no. there will then be hard choices and the only choice will be to cut foreign aid and military spending. entitlement spending and interest on the national debt will consume everything else.

you're upset that we just gave 0.7 trillion dollars to the crooks on wall street? we're going to have to give $99.4 trillion dollars of mandated entitlement spending to the baby boomers over the next several decades. we have NONE of it. the government is going to print $99.4 trillion dollars to pay them off. say hello to massive, massive inflation. guns or butter. you can't have both forever.

TheVikingLord wrote:

LOL, the democrats didnt cause the collapse of the banking system, how did you come to this conclusion?

Since when are European kiddos credible about issues other than weed use and homosexuality?

Your question is immature and leading. Actually, "democrats didnt cause the collapse of the banking system, how did you come to this conclusion?" is not even a question. It's a statement of ignorance.

One of the root causes of the credit crunch (stick your collapse behind your ears and smoke it later, you ignorant rowing slave) is the pressure excercised mainly (but admittedly not only) by democrat administrations on mortgage resellers to caution mortgages by prospective homeowners who had not enough credentials nor money nor income to buy a home.

No private independant bank would have lent them a dime. But institutions that were too dependent on government, and vice-versa, were cornered into granting (or cautioning) loans that were totally irresponsible but oh so politically correct.

Most of that pressure came from Democrats who see government as the perfect means to impose their own vision on other people. Most lenders came from ethnic and/or economic backgrounds that somehow made them prone to vote for democrats.

Do you get it, or do I have to make a drawing and reduce the number of syllables per word?

Fanny and Freddy were used by Dem administrations to offer houses for votes. Just as in your socialist Denmark.

Now I do know this is a bit of an intellectual shortcut. There is more to it, and Republicans are not without blame. But I fear that by feeding you too much information in one post, you will somehow overheat and ignore facts, and go for the usual routine you guys do when confronted with things you don't really understand: Denial, Claim Knowledge Without Facts, and when you lose your argument as you inevitably will, you will blame Racism because, er, oh well, Obama is black.

Yeah, way to go kid.




The funny thing is that if I said that Republicans were to blame for the credit crunch, you would believe me without proof. Hey, it's on the internet, isn't it? And everybody knows Republicans are bad. Bush. Bad. Indymedia. Bush. Ugly. Bad. No other argument needed. But explaining why and how Democrats (Clinton being a huge factor) are involved just asks too much of your braincell.

Good luck in your future Gulag. Since anti-American posts will always be allowed, simple minds will be able to live for a long time without understanding that their freedom of speech has been curtailed. After all, thought precedes speech, but I don't expect you to understand that.

But by all means, surprise me. Present an original thought, for example.


Oh sorry, that was too much to ask.

Well, how's the weather in Denmark?

No, it contributed to the problem, but didn't cause it. It wasn't Democrats who sold off those sub prime mortgages, nor was it Democrats who "chopped" up those mortgages into little pieces and created "securities" to be used as "collateral" in subsequent, speculative trading throughout the financial world. T

Retarded cunt, so Fannie Mae did not sell MBS? That's what you are saying? LOL

Is Canuk 14? 15 maybe?


What a simple turd he is.

Both parties are complicit. They are liars and thieves who promise government favors in order to get bribes from their supporters. Then the whores get into office and the pimps call in their bribes and get government favors. McCain is a whore. Obama is a whore. You're choosing between two whores. Fuck them all.

"The only uniquely distinct criminal class in the U.S. is Congress." Mark Twain

Where is the angry mob?