The McCain campaign’s recent angry tone and sharply personal attacks on Senator Barack Obama appear to have backfired and tarnished Senator John McCain more than their intended target, the latest New York Times/CBS News poll has found.

After several weeks in which the McCain campaign unleashed a series of strong political attacks on Mr. Obama, trying to tie him to a former 1960s radical, among other things, the poll found that more voters see Mr. McCain as waging a negative campaign than Mr. Obama.

Six in 10 voters surveyed said that Mr. McCain had spent more time attacking Mr. Obama than explaining what he would do as president; by about the same number, voters said Mr. Obama was spending more of his time explaining than attacking.

Over all, the poll found that if the election were held today, 53 percent of those determined to be probable voters said they would vote for Mr. Obama and 39 percent said they would vote for Mr. McCain.

NYTIMES.com

nyt,,,

Someone just emailed us this — it’s the new CBS/NYT poll and it has Obama up by 14. This, of course, sends Eeyores into pants-wetting panic, crying that the sky is falling. Because, that’s what Eeyores have done all year, so why would that be any different?

Once again, these people don’t sit down and look at the actual mechanics of the poll — they just flip out and run screaming into the woods.

It’s really funny this poll comes out so strongly for Obama in a week that’s been dominated by repeated findings of Obama/ACORN voter fraud left and right across multiple states. Very convenient that when Obama’s dirty dealings come to light, welcome good news magically appears at the hands of the New York Times.

Hidden at the very end of the polling data, past all the questions, is the statistical breakdown of the polling sample they used to construct this poll.

Remember what we have told you before, based on 20 years of polling: Democrats have never enjoyed more than a 4 point party ID advantage. In 2006, party breakdown was 37% Democrat, 34% Republican, and 26% Independent. In 2004, it was 37% Democrat, 37% Republican, and 26% Independent. We believe party ID this year will be 39% Democrat, 35% Republican, and 26% Independent — once more returning Democrats to a 4 point party ID advantage.

The CBS/NYT poll uses a party ID sample of: 37% Democrat, 29% Republican, and 33% Independent.

That means the CBS/NYT poll creates a party ID advantage for Democrats of 8% = doubles the party ID advantage Democrats have ever enjoyed historically.

There’s no valid explanation for giving the Democrats DOUBLE the party ID advantage they should have — unless you just want to skew the poll so you guarantee Obama is a big winner.

hillbuzz.wordpress.com

HAHAHAHAHA!!!! The Times? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!

Zogby has it the other way 2 points closer then yesterday.




Admit it w&c your jealous of Larry .

nyt/cbs?
ahh ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha.

Oh please, if you start discussing specifics with the prolls or discussing economic theory and marginal taxation, the first that happens is their eyes glaze over and they start looking for a budweiser and the remote.

It fun to rile people up isn't it W&C?

Rev used to be really good at it. Any word from her?

It fun to rile people up isn't it W&C?

Rev used to be really good at it. Any word from her?
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No. But what mature adult would allow himself or herself to be riled up by an opinion poll?

THE NEW YORK TIMES SAID THIS? I can translate that into English: "The attacks are working so well we want to try to stop them so we are writing a story SAYING they aren't working. Did I tell you that the people who own the NYT are left wing assholes who hate America AND that the paper is losing it's ass because NO NO READS THIS SHIT anymore because NO ONE BUYS THIS SHIT any longer"?


.... done....

NYTIMES.com

LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL!

You're like the little boy whistling past the grave yard!












and you're a twit.

Keep hammering away at the "african liberation", socialist, homegrown terrorist hugging, Barack Hussein Obama.

The tide will turn against Obama.

Hold on tight WC. Obanga has got a big fat check for you.

poupon_le_french wrote:

It fun to rile people up isn't it W&C?

Rev used to be really good at it. Any word from her?

What are you trying to say poup ???

Do you believe in bad karma ?

It’s really funny this poll comes out so strongly for Obama in a week that’s been dominated by repeated findings of Obama/ACORN voter fraud left and right across multiple states. Very convenient that when Obama’s dirty dealings come to light, welcome good news magically appears at the hands of the New York Times.

BINGO! Thanks FrenchDoSmell! Something has seemed very amiss as of late. I can't beleive that Obama being tied to ACORN would not affect him. Even if his poll numbers remained the same I wouldn't be so suspicious. Couple that with all the accusation of racism by Frank Rich of NYT and other media sources. The race card is always dealt from the bottom of the deck and I can't believe they would use it if they were so far ahead of McCain.

Over all, the poll found that if the election were held today, 53 percent of those determined to be probable voters said they would vote for Mr. Obama and 39 percent said they would vote for Mr. McCain.

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that's nice.
if they polled "FF",malkin,free republic,etc they'd get a .1 to zerO for oboMba(had to "adjust" for voter fraud on FF ),
and 99.9 t0 100 % for mcbain.
even AOLs vote has him ahead.

ProjectLily wrote:

It’s really funny this poll comes out so strongly for Obama in a week that’s been dominated by repeated findings of Obama/ACORN voter fraud left and right across multiple states. Very convenient that when Obama’s dirty dealings come to light, welcome good news magically appears at the hands of the New York Times.

BINGO! Thanks FrenchDoSmell! Something has seemed very amiss as of late. I can't beleive that Obama being tied to ACORN would not affect him. Even if his poll numbers remained the same I wouldn't be so suspicious. Couple that with all the accusation of racism by Frank Rich of NYT and other media sources. The race card is always dealt from the bottom of the deck and I can't believe they would use it if they were so far ahead of McCain.

We're being set up for the coming race riots. Win or loose.

WineandCoke wrote:

It fun to rile people up isn't it W&C?

Rev used to be really good at it. Any word from her?
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No. But what mature adult would allow himself or herself to be riled up by an opinion poll?

Laughing at a fool and being 'riled' up are two entirely different things.

I know, I know we shouldn't laugh at the handicapped but it's like watching
a guy go head first into a mud puddle you just can't help yourself.

And if you say you can help it, you're a big ole liar.






and you're a twit.

No. But what mature adult would

All dems are immature, America hating, morons.

I still think McCain will win.

No. But what mature adult would allow himself or herself to be riled up by an opinion poll?

Non-socialists who fear becoming like france probably would be really unhappy if they were to read about a marxist leading the polls.

A better question would be what mature adult would waste time on ff baiting those who do.

A better question would be what mature adult would waste time on ff baiting those who do.
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An even better question would be, if you don't like the weather, should you blame the weatherman?

Hey, W&C, didn't you get the word that Lisa (Rev_Al) passed away? She can't interject her opinion on this topic because she went to God.

The reason why the attacks on Obonga's association with terrorists Ayers and Dohrn have failed is because the Big Media gave it the once-over, mocked it, and moved on. When clear-thinking minds look into this, it alarms them. It should you.

Why couldn't the Democratic Party come up with a more solid, centrist candidate? Answer: Because Howard Dean, Soros, and Axelrod stacked the deck to make sure the early primaries were caucases in states with large university towns. Hillary gave Obonga a real fight from the middle primaries on to the finish. She couldn't overcome the early deficit. But even Hillary is not a true centrist.

The true centrist in the Democratic Party is a man that Dean and company worked hard to slander and kick out: Sen. Joseph Lieberman. They were working very, very hard and spending a lot of money to defeat in Connecticut.

An even better question would be, if you don't like the weather, should you blame the weatherman?

If the weatherman is a liar.

The Washington Times
Study: Big 3 networks still fixated on 'first love' Obama
Jennifer Harper (Contact)
Tuesday, October 14, 2008

The "big three" broadcast networks - NBC, ABC and CBS - remain captivated with Sen. Barack Obama, according to a study of campaign coverage released Tuesday by the Center for Media and Public Affairs at George Mason University.

Numbers tell all: 61 percent of the stories that appeared on the networks between Aug. 23 and Sept. 30 were positive toward the Democratic Party. In contrast, just 39 percent of the stories covering Republicans were favorable.

"After a brief flirtation with Sarah Palin, the broadcast networks have returned to their first love: Barack Obama," said Robert Lichter, the center's president.

"John McCain has not been so lucky. He's gotten bad coverage from the beginning. It has never varied from that," Mr. Lichter added.

Fox News Channel, which was included in the study to provide parity, cut the Republicans some slack. Overall, 44 percent of the Republican coverage included in the half-hour news portion of the nightly "Special Report with Brit Hume" was positive, compared with 25 percent favorable coverage for the Democrats. Mr. Obama was favored in only 28 percent of the stories. Sen. Joseph R. Biden Jr. garnered 18 percent positive coverage. Thirty-eight percent of the stories about Mr. McCain were positive.

And Mrs. Palin, the Alaska governor and Republican vice-presidential nominee? Comparatively speaking, she was a Fox favorite, with half the stories about her positive.

The study revealed a rare and potentially laudable trend at NBC, ABC and CBS, which could benefit voters as Election Day looms. Stories on all three networks were more attuned to real "substance" and issues, rather than the political horse race, tactics and strategy.

Thirty-six percent of the coverage was substantive, compared with 31 percent that focused on the horse race.

"In the past six elections, this is the only second time that 'substance' has outpaced the horse race among broadcasters," Mr. Lichter said.

"Reporters and correspondents are systematically monitoring campaign ads - which are based around very specific issues. The press ends up vetting the ads, and consequently vetting the issues. We're no longer getting surface portrayals of 'Mr. Change' and 'Mr. Maverick' ," he added.

Fox News, with 260 election stories, provided the most campaign coverage, followed by CBS (141 stories), NBC (95) and ABC (89). Things were not quite so solemn at Fox News, perhaps. The study found that 31 percent of the network's coverage was substantive, compared with 44 percent that dealt with the horse race.

The public, meanwhile, has its own perceptions.

Overall, 38 percent of Americans say the media has been "too tough" on Mrs. Palin, according to a survey released Thursday by the Pew Research Center. In contrast, only 5 percent said Mr. Biden has been roughed up by news organizations, while 9 percent said the same of Mr. Obama. Less than a quarter said Mr. McCain had received tough treatment in the press.

McCain Attacks on Obama Appear to Be Backfiring, Poll Finds

McCain has begun to attack the Obamanation? Great! I haven't heard. So far it seems like he's been wanting to give him a warm, fuzzy hug.

People are deeply tired of hearing McCain brag about sucking up to the Dems. That sort of thing has hurt him extensively.