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Schoolboys disciplined for 'refusing to pray to Allah' (karma: 11)  en>fr fr>en
By poz_2000 Comments: 1731, member since Thu May 15, 2003
On Fri Jul 04, 2008 01:41 PM
Two schoolboys were allegedly disciplined after refusing to kneel down and "pray to Allah" during a religious education lesson. I'D GIVE THEM A MEDAL

It was claimed that the boys, from a year seven class of 11 and 12-year-olds, were given detention after refusing to take part in a practical demonstration of how Allah is worshipped.

Yesterday parents accused the school of breaching their human rights by forcing them to take part in the exercise.

One, Sharon Luinen, said: "This isn't right, it's taking things too far. I understand that they have to learn about other religions. I can live with that but it is taking it a step too far to be punished because they wouldn't join in Muslim prayer.

"Making them pray to Allah, who isn't who they worship, is wrong and what got me is that they were told they were being disrespectful."

Another parent Karen Williams, 38, whose 12-year-old daughter is a classmate of the boys, said: "I am absolutely furious my daughter was made to take part in it and I don't find it acceptable.

"The teacher had gone into the class and made them watch a short film and then said 'we are now going out to pray to Allah'.

"Then two boys got detention and all the other children missed their refreshments' break."

She added: "Not only was it forced upon them, my daughter was told off for not doing it right.

"They'd never done it before and they were supposed to do it in another language."

She said the pupils were asked if they had water on them, and when one girl produced a bottle, the teacher began washing her feet with it.

Her husband Keith, 44, a painter and decorator, said: "The school is wonderful but this one teacher has made a major mistake. It seems to be happening throughout society. People think they can ride roughshod over our beliefs and the way we live."

The alleged incident, at the Alsager school, one of Cheshire's top performing schools, happened on Tuesday afternoon. The teacher, Alison Phillips, the school's subject leader in RE, is understood to be staying away from the school until the furore dies down, although she has not been suspended.

She is said to have got prayer mats out of the cupboard and also asked children to wear Islamic headdresses.

Deputy headmaster Keith Plant said: "I have spoken to the teacher and she has articulately given me her version of events."

Sources at the school said the incident could have been down to Miss Phillips instigating a role play and not properly briefing the pupils, all aged around 12, what she was doing.

A spokesman for Cheshire County Council said they were investigating. He added: "The headteacher contacted the authority immediately complaints were received. Enquiries are being made into the circumstances as a matter of urgency and all parents will be informed accordingly.

"Educating children in the beliefs of different faiths is part of Cheshire's diversity curriculum on the basis that knowledge is, of course, is essential to understanding.

"We accept that such teaching has to be conducted with commonsense and sensitivity."

30 Replies to Schoolboys disciplined for 'refusing to pray to Allah'

re: Schoolboys disciplined for 'refusing to pray to Allah' (karma: 3)  en>fr fr>en
By Whatchamacallitmember has saluted, click to view salute photos Comments: 34038, member since Fri Nov 14, 2003
On Fri Jul 04, 2008 01:44 PM
Why did they not pray ? I would have prayed things like "Piss on Allah, Fuck Allah !"
re: Schoolboys disciplined for 'refusing to pray to Allah' en>fr fr>en
By Monticellomember has saluted, click to view salute photos Comments: 5333, member since Thu May 15, 2003
On Fri Jul 04, 2008 01:45 PM
What more can one add?
re: Schoolboys disciplined for 'refusing to pray to Allah' en>fr fr>en
By Snail_Bait Comments: 5821, member since Sat May 14, 2005
On Fri Jul 04, 2008 01:53 PM
Revolting.

I want some school teacher ass.

Bullshit.
re: Schoolboys disciplined for 'refusing to pray to Allah' (karma: 7)  en>fr fr>en
By Umfug Comments: 3500, member since Mon Jan 30, 2006
On Fri Jul 04, 2008 01:54 PM
"Educating children in the beliefs of different faiths is part of Cheshire's diversity curriculum on the basis that knowledge is, of course, is essential to understanding."


Now imagine if they were forced to pray to Jesus. CNN would carry the story live for four weeks. I would also bet that the Bible was never part of their education.
re: Schoolboys disciplined for 'refusing to pray to Allah' (karma: 6)  en>fr fr>en
By Dewi_Sant Comments: 13713, member since Wed Jul 06, 2005
On Fri Jul 04, 2008 02:03 PM
Absolutely disgraceful behaviour from the teacher - soon 2 be an "X" teacher because no child of mine would be allowed 2 attend any of her classes

The teacher, Alison Phillips, the school's subject leader in RE, is understood to be staying away from the school until the furore dies down, although she has not been suspended.


She will be - schools are forced by their curriculum 2 "teach the religion" of all faiths - not make them actually roll play them - my wife teaches 11 year old's and has got 2 give them a lesson in all religions - when it comes around to the muzz she does produce prayer mats 2 show the kids what they look like and tells them of the quaran but has not got one 2 show them and she would not show them even if she did have - and she does point out some of the "finer" points of Pislam - beheadings, stonings etc - she does stop short of saying the women wear nosebags like horses or head coverings with just eye slots - this woman has overstepped the mark - and she has violated their human rights - I wonder what religion she practices ?
re: Schoolboys disciplined for 'refusing to pray to Allah' (karma: 2)  en>fr fr>en
By Supertony51member has saluted, click to view salute photos Comments: 810, member since Thu Jun 01, 2006
On Fri Jul 04, 2008 02:26 PM
wow this is aggravateing, the british have so many reasons to be proud of there culture and acchomplishments, why are they so quick to embrace a religion and a culture of death and destruction? the brits are one the of the best allies we have. I hope this story has been exaggerated, cause if its not it is very dissappointing that the british education system would allow such brain washing.
re: Schoolboys disciplined for 'refusing to pray to Allah' (karma: 3)  en>fr fr>en
By Bishopabc Comments: 3257, member since Fri May 27, 2005
On Fri Jul 04, 2008 03:30 PM
Years ago, in the southern states, if a teacher had forced some issue like "mooscum religion" or "demonstrated masturbation practices to second graders; that teacher, would have been found face down in a local river.

WTF is wrong with you Brits? Does nothing offend you anymore? The teachers perverting your children doesn't offend you? You do this in the so called name of "diversified education". BULLSHIT !

Self deception is the worst lie their is. In God's Name, not allahs, get a-hold of yourselves and at least try to save your children.

Fuck allah, fuck mohammad the baby fucker, fuck islam, and fuck muslims everywhere. Islam, the world's biggest LIE!

--- FFx3
re: Schoolboys disciplined for 'refusing to pray to Allah' en>fr fr>en
By FrogKillrPremium member Comments: 5001, member since Mon May 05, 2003
On Fri Jul 04, 2008 03:55 PM
The teacher, Alison Phillips, the school's subject leader in RE, is understood to be staying away from the school until the furore dies down...

When she comes back, the parents should grab her, tie her behind a pick-up truck, and take her on a long and fast road trip.

FUCK ISLAM AND ITS DHIMMI FACILITATORS!!!
re: Schoolboys disciplined for 'refusing to pray to Allah' (karma: 2)  en>fr fr>en
By Flamin_Peugot Comments: 1959, member since Tue Feb 13, 2007
On Fri Jul 04, 2008 04:41 PM
Alison Phillips .. try going for a midnight stroll in Bradford you traitorous cunt.
re: Schoolboys disciplined for 'refusing to pray to Allah' (karma: 1)  en>fr fr>en
By AMERICANPHYCO Comments: 8631, member since Tue Apr 22, 2003
On Fri Jul 04, 2008 05:17 PM
What the hell is going on over there?!?

We got the whole concept of separation of church and state from you guys - what gives?

There's a whole lot of fucked up shit going on in this country, but try this at a public school (I assume this is a public school) and I'd have a lawsuit shoved so far up the District's ass it would be coming out of their mouths.

And please don't think the muzz are going to be so accomodating when they get the whip hand (probably not too far down the road either) :(
re: Schoolboys disciplined for 'refusing to pray to Allah' en>fr fr>en
By Zanatany Comments: 703, member since Wed Apr 19, 2006
On Fri Jul 04, 2008 05:22 PM
We got the whole concept of separation of church and state from you guys - what gives?

But no separation of mosque and State.
Plus this is Bush's fault and the Joos are conspiring to take over the world arn't they?
re: Schoolboys disciplined for 'refusing to pray to Allah' (karma: 1)  en>fr fr>en
By Nappybonesapart Comments: 10105, member since Fri Aug 27, 2004
On Fri Jul 04, 2008 05:35 PM
"We got the whole concept of separation of church and state from you guys - what gives?"

Church is not seperated from State in UK, Queeny is also head of church, prime minister is given a short list of bishops whatever his faith he chooses, i believe

"There's a whole lot of fucked up shit going on in this country, but try this at a public school"

a public school in UK , is not "public" its a private school , i don't understand why either.

Prince Harry went to Eton a public school , a private school

Nappy was state school educated, a normal school
re: Schoolboys disciplined for 'refusing to pray to Allah' en>fr fr>en
By GBush Comments: 19044, member since Wed Feb 26, 2003
On Fri Jul 04, 2008 05:40 PM
Makes me wonder how many Jews were kicked out for dissing Christmas and Jesus.
re: Schoolboys disciplined for 'refusing to pray to Allah' (karma: 3)  en>fr fr>en
By G3S3B Comments: 24670, member since Sun Oct 31, 2004
On Fri Jul 04, 2008 05:51 PM
Good for those two boys. There really is no wiggle room in the first commandment.

The first commandment prohibits belief in or worship of any additional deities.
re: Schoolboys disciplined for 'refusing to pray to Allah' en>fr fr>en
By achilledetroie Comments: 4739, member since Mon Apr 17, 2006
On Fri Jul 04, 2008 06:19 PM
Schoolboys have to learn about other religions....

Well depends on how they are taught about the different religions!
If the teacher is a relativist it will create a big confusion.
Liberal confusion
re: Schoolboys disciplined for 'refusing to pray to Allah' (karma: 1)  en>fr fr>en
By BurnParis Comments: 20472, member since Thu Mar 13, 2003
On Fri Jul 04, 2008 09:25 PM
My son is going to be 12 in a few weeks.

If this had been him, and his class - I would be sitting in a jail cell right now for beating and torturing a teacher nearly to death.
re: Schoolboys disciplined for 'refusing to pray to Allah' en>fr fr>en
By BurnParis Comments: 20472, member since Thu Mar 13, 2003
On Fri Jul 04, 2008 09:32 PM
Mind you, I wouldn’t be there too long. I’m know a bunch of other pissed off parents would be glad to kick in cash for bail.
re: Schoolboys disciplined for 'refusing to pray to Allah' (karma: 1)  en>fr fr>en
By ProudRacist Comments: 1551, member since Thu Nov 22, 2007
On Fri Jul 04, 2008 10:15 PM
Edited by ProudRacist (81095) on 2008-07-04 22:16:08
1st Commandment; Thou shal not worship and god but I.
Depending on which translation of the Bible you read, they all point to "Don't worship false gods."

Good on the boys' for their stand up against this suicidal, demonic death cult of a regime. Sounds like something I would do if I was forced to by these "guilt sluts" who brainwash our kids into hating being British.
I on the other hand would've been more vocal and burnt the "prayer" mats and dragged students out of the class.
re: Schoolboys disciplined for 'refusing to pray to Allah' en>fr fr>en
By HellsKitchenUSA Comments: 2406, member since Sat Apr 03, 2004
On Fri Jul 04, 2008 11:22 PM
"They'd never done it before and they were supposed to do it in another language."

so the kids even had to pray in arabic.... and what prayer were they saying ?
hope it wasn't a prayer affirming their conversion to islam.
++++
To become a Muslim one must simply pronounce the Shahaadatayn (Declaration of Faith) with sincerity and conviction.

The Shahadah can be declared as follows:

"ASH-HADU ANLA ELAHA ILLA-ALLAH WA ASH-HADU ANNA MOHAMMADAN RASUL-ALLAH".

www.muslimconverts.com . . .
re: Schoolboys disciplined for 'refusing to pray to Allah' en>fr fr>en
By Dewi_Sant Comments: 13713, member since Wed Jul 06, 2005
On Sat Jul 05, 2008 12:46 AM
HellsKitchenUSA wrote:

"They'd never done it before and they were supposed to do it in another language."

so the kids even had to pray in arabic.... and what prayer were they saying ?
hope it wasn't a prayer affirming their conversion to islam.
++++
To become a Muslim one must simply pronounce the Shahaadatayn (Declaration of Faith) with sincerity and conviction.

The Shahadah can be declared as follows:

"ASH-HADU ANLA ELAHA ILLA-ALLAH WA ASH-HADU ANNA MOHAMMADAN RASUL-ALLAH".

www.muslimconverts.com . . .


I am really glad you showed me that because those buggers down our pub will do anything "for a laugh" and getting someone 2 read it out purely for "information" purposes only gets easier as the night rolls on :P

and what is pipi's ANNA mentioned for
re: Schoolboys disciplined for 'refusing to pray to Allah' en>fr fr>en
By jackburton Comments: 5626, member since Sun Feb 05, 2006
On Sat Jul 05, 2008 12:54 AM
Edited by jackburton (78975) on 2008-07-05 00:58:54
Comming from the only SANE resident muslim, I must say this.

WTF!!! I could ONLY WISH they had tried that shit in SW Missouri.

Not only would the teacher been Severly BEAT (if not killed) he / she would also have their house burnt down and chased out of town, had they survived the beating.

If I was those parents I would sue the shit out of the school for violating the Separations of church and state, and for defaming my childs character.

All i can say is thank God this didnt happen in the USA.
re: Schoolboys disciplined for 'refusing to pray to Allah' en>fr fr>en
By dukeofearl Comments: 2163, member since Fri Oct 08, 2004
On Sat Jul 05, 2008 07:15 AM
"Educating children in the beliefs of different faiths is part of Cheshire's diversity curriculum on the basis that knowledge is, of course, is essential to understanding.


Wasn't it the case that I read here about Muzz students going bonkers b/c their teacher spoke of Christ?

It's only fair that the boys and girls get the chance to behead Alison Phillips in the name of "diversity" and "education."

Fuck mo-ham-ed
Original child pedophile
re: Schoolboys disciplined for 'refusing to pray to Allah' en>fr fr>en
By ProudRacist Comments: 1551, member since Thu Nov 22, 2007
On Sat Jul 05, 2008 07:19 AM
jackburton wrote:

Comming from the only SANE resident muslim, I must say this.





How do you know when a muslim is telling a lie?
When you see his lips move.
re: Schoolboys disciplined for 'refusing to pray to Allah' en>fr fr>en
By DutchHateFrogs2 Comments: 10393, member since Thu Mar 24, 2005
On Sat Jul 05, 2008 07:32 AM
I plege allegiance to the flag....one nation under G-D.... I would have been expelled for refusing to say that when I was a kid.
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